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rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy. michigan governor rick snyder went before congress ten months ago to say he was not particularly interested at this time in making the bedrock union state of michigan a right to work state. >> right to work is an issue that is a very divisive issue. people feel very strongly about it. we have many problems in michigan that are much more pressing that i want to find common ground issues we can work together on before we get into divisive issues. >> jon: (whispering) going to bring people together. (laughter) he was going to focus on common ground things people from michigan want and need. more robocoppers on the streets of new detroit. (laughter) getting the tourism board to work a little harder on its new slogan. (laughter) and finally -- (applause). finally michigan was going to fin their statue i have been petitioning for online. (laughter) they've got a rocky statue in philly, they should have a kid rock statue in detroit. that's some bull (bleep) right there. (laughter) none of th
rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy. michigan governor rick snyder went before congress ten months ago to say he was not particularly interested at this time in making the bedrock union state of michigan a right to work state. >> right to work is an issue that is a very divisive issue. people feel very strongly about it. we have many problems in michigan that are much more pressing that i want to find common ground issues we can work together on before we get into divisive issues....
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governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick snyder says, by the way, it's not fair to call these people freeloaders. >> i think it's absolutely inappropriate to say someone is a freeloader. michigan people are hard-working people trying to make a living. if the union is offering them a value proposition, i don't see a michiganer hesitating to pay those dollars >> bill: i came close to calling that what it is. total b.s of course they are freeloaders. i have all of these people around me. they are paying their dues so we can get representation in the state legislature in the congress so we can work and get better re
governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick...
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i just talked to michigan's governor rick snyder, and this is what he had to say about the rationale for this legislation, which he says he is going to sign. >> we have had a number of people that said they would like to choose to join the union or have the flexibility not to, and they believe they'll get better account at for unions. could be a positive for unions over the longer term. >> could i ask you to respond on what of the uaw to what the governor just told me? >> yeah, a bunch of mularkey really. the governor knows that people in the uaw under our constitution have a right to be in the union or not. under federal law people have a right to be in the union or not. the question is do people in the community -- if you are in a city and they pick up the trash, they have police or fire, everybody pays taxes. when are you in a union or workplace, you get representation and procedure, bargaining, and you pay your fair share of the costs of that representation. >> what will be the effect of this? is it going to bust the union and change the life of workers in michigan forever? >> it
i just talked to michigan's governor rick snyder, and this is what he had to say about the rationale for this legislation, which he says he is going to sign. >> we have had a number of people that said they would like to choose to join the union or have the flexibility not to, and they believe they'll get better account at for unions. could be a positive for unions over the longer term. >> could i ask you to respond on what of the uaw to what the governor just told me? >>...
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snyder for his signature. protesters of this new law number some 10,000 at today's demonstrations. most league made up of uaw union of the workers, machinists, teachers, sometimes angry crowds that seem to be taking cues frm their democratic leaders. one group described by those on the ground as a mob chanting and gohome while tearing down a conservative activist group tent. a member of that mob scene right here. this as protesters are heard in the background treatening the police with violence. here he is trying to plead with pro union protesters to be less physical, lot less. >> already destroyed onetent. leavitt's and alone. >> get out of my face. >> don't teardown that tend. >> get out of my face. i didn't hurt nobody. get outta my ace. get at my face. lou: one state legislator before the bout had been taken declared there would be blood, repercussions, as you saw there. some protesters got more than just a little physical. democratic state reprentative said i right to work legislation were to be passed, t
snyder for his signature. protesters of this new law number some 10,000 at today's demonstrations. most league made up of uaw union of the workers, machinists, teachers, sometimes angry crowds that seem to be taking cues frm their democratic leaders. one group described by those on the ground as a mob chanting and gohome while tearing down a conservative activist group tent. a member of that mob scene right here. this as protesters are heard in the background treatening the police with...
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do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car that is paying for pensions of people who retired five years ago that's correct is a do youing state. one of the most beautiful states in the union and that's what happens. >> let me answer your great point. this is true. right now detroit is on the verge of bankruptcy. one of america's great cities. they have lost half their population. can go on the internet. i urge our viewers to go out there. you can buy homes in detroit for a thousand dollars. last time i was there, it was shocking how one boarded up house of a another. it almost looked like new orleans of a hurricane katrin
do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car...
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governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis the season. for food, for family, and now, something extra -- for you. >> first the wisconsin state capitol, now michigan. hundreds protesting against michigan coming a right to work state. today republican governor rick snyder and gop leaders saying they will push to right to work legislation. and tonight both the michigan house and cincinnati passing the measure. we spoke with.gov nor snyder
governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to...
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governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator mccain say right now? you will hear from him coming up. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. so we created the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. around a bed with dualair technology that allows you to adjust to the support your body needs - each of your bodies. our sleep professionals will help you find your sleep number setting. exclusively at a sleep number store. sleep number. comfort individualized. this holiday season, give the gift that's magical: the innovative airfit adjustable pillow at special 30% savings. >> first the wisconsin state capitol, now michigan. hundreds protesting against michiga
governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator mccain say right now? you will hear from him coming up. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to...
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. >> republican governor rick snyder promises to sign the bill as soon as it hits his desk which could be within hours. >> jon: actually, between the time that we cut that soundbite and now he already signed it! so (bleep). (laughter) look, you know what, man? so what? so what? so this guy who really looks pleasant enough. (laughter) , maybe it won't be so bad. i mean, the phrase "right to work" is such a positive and uplifting message. what could it possibly do to organizations like unions that also supports workers rights. the law probably strengthens unions. >> it would make it illegal for unions and employers to mandate that employees be part of a union or pay any amount of money to that union. >> jon: or destroy the only leverage unions have to stay afloat, one or the other. so it's really a right-to-work around the union for the corporations. it's one of those things that are actually named for the opposite of the thing they do. like strip bars call themselves gentlemen's clubs. (laughter) or the t.v. network dedicated to making us stupider is called "the learning channel." (laug
. >> republican governor rick snyder promises to sign the bill as soon as it hits his desk which could be within hours. >> jon: actually, between the time that we cut that soundbite and now he already signed it! so (bleep). (laughter) look, you know what, man? so what? so what? so this guy who really looks pleasant enough. (laughter) , maybe it won't be so bad. i mean, the phrase "right to work" is such a positive and uplifting message. what could it possibly do to...
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republican governor rick snyder is expected to sign that bill into law. too would make michigan the 24th state to approve a right to work law, which exempts employees in a union workplace from joining or paying dues to that union. meanwhile, pro-union protesters are swarming the michigan capital building in lansing in scenes reminiscent of the battles over union rights in wisconsin and in ohio last year. david corn, we -- the president has sort of -- was in michigan yesterday, and bundled this into a bigger message about the middle class, working americans. is this a good time for republicans to be on the side -- well, against workers rights in the context of this broader conversation we're having? >> you know, we shall see here because they clearly have the votes and snyder says he is going to do this. you see the response. you saw the response in wisconsin. their walker survived the fight. i assume this will be as big, if not bigger, and the uaw, of course, the unions are even stronger in michigan than they are in wisconsin, so, you know, this will be a
republican governor rick snyder is expected to sign that bill into law. too would make michigan the 24th state to approve a right to work law, which exempts employees in a union workplace from joining or paying dues to that union. meanwhile, pro-union protesters are swarming the michigan capital building in lansing in scenes reminiscent of the battles over union rights in wisconsin and in ohio last year. david corn, we -- the president has sort of -- was in michigan yesterday, and bundled this...
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that should come tomorrow, but coming upright here, michigan's governor, rick snyder, on the news causing a big stir in what was a union stronghold. liz: less than three weeks less for congress to agree on the fiscal crisis. any signs democrats and republicans are moving closer to middle ground? rich edson sitting down with the new chair of the house financial services committee. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the marke he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happens, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense, from td ameritrade. i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. sa
that should come tomorrow, but coming upright here, michigan's governor, rick snyder, on the news causing a big stir in what was a union stronghold. liz: less than three weeks less for congress to agree on the fiscal crisis. any signs democrats and republicans are moving closer to middle ground? rich edson sitting down with the new chair of the house financial services committee. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great...
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governor rick snyder, initially was against, at least one of these bills. he called it too divisive. what changed his mind? >> i think, i can't speak for the governor in that regard but i know the governor is big proponent anything you can do to bring jobs into this state. when he was presented with compelling evidence around that, especially in the wake of what has been happening in indiana, it would have been difficult for him to continue on in am ba gut. he is -- ambiguity. he is in support of getting more and better jobs in our state. david: hopefully we'll get him on next week after he signs these bills as he is expect to do. state senator, thanks for coming in. we appreciate it. >> have a good day. david: you too. and a good weekend. lauren? lauren: ibm retirement program is getting a makeover. that is not pretty for employees and other companies could follow the lead. that story is next. we could also see a lot more flooding in the future. uh-oh. find out why. ♪ it's a new day. if you're a man with low testosterone, you should know that axiron is h
governor rick snyder, initially was against, at least one of these bills. he called it too divisive. what changed his mind? >> i think, i can't speak for the governor in that regard but i know the governor is big proponent anything you can do to bring jobs into this state. when he was presented with compelling evidence around that, especially in the wake of what has been happening in indiana, it would have been difficult for him to continue on in am ba gut. he is -- ambiguity. he is in...
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michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the birthplace of the uaw. for what has been long considered a union strong hold, giving workers the freedom to choose. freedom to choose whether or not to pay a union and still keep their jobs. this will have national ramification. this is very historic day both for michigan at country. melissa: mark, is there aniable positive way to spin this for the union side? >> of course not. this is union-busting move by lame duck legislature. this is puppet marching to the beat of puppet tease, dick devs of amway who want to hurt unions. melissa: did they succeed? is there a way to battle bac
michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the...
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and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan? >> bill: sure. union workers. >> where does the union movement go? this is a big blow. what should they learn from this going forward so this doesn't happen in other states because as i understand it, right-to-work laws are in about half the states. >> bill: now 24. michigan is 24. >> i think it means work harder. the labor movement has worked hard. what it means i think is having a stronger conversation in america about whether we want workers to have a voice in the workplace. and if they don't what are the consequences? you know, we've had a flattening of income
and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan?...
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governor rick snyder joins us next. why he says it was the unions who started this fight. >>> and a little later, harvey weinstein will be here on set to discuss tonight's big benefit concert for hurricane sandy relief. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. we're at walmart with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get unlimited talk, text and data for only $45 a month per phone. would we get the same coverage? same coverage on america's best networks. you saved $146.76 by switching to straight talk. awesome! now you can afford to share your allowance with me. get the season's hottest smartphones like the samsung galaxy s2 and get straight talk with unlimited data for just $45 a month -- from america's gift headquarters. walmart. ♪ [ male announcer ] can a car be built around a state of mind? ♪ announcing the all-new 2013 malibu from chevrolet. ♪ with a remarkable
governor rick snyder joins us next. why he says it was the unions who started this fight. >>> and a little later, harvey weinstein will be here on set to discuss tonight's big benefit concert for hurricane sandy relief. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. we're at walmart with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get...
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all that's left now is for republican governor rick snyder to sign it. it will curb the power of unions, it gives workers the chance to decide for themselves whether or not to pay union dues. they decide that as opposed to mandatory dues which is the way that the state has been run and so many other states have been run up to now. this is a story that has been playing out, it has seen some very plowed -- loud and violent protests, but peaceful demonstrations going on right now around the statehouse. again, final approval given by the republican-controlled house in the state government there in michigan. all that's left is the governor's signature, it could come later today or tomorrow. of we will certainly keep you posted. >>> americans facing great danger in hot spots all around the world. it's now three months since the murderous attack at our consulate in libya. is the u.s. any closer now to bringing the killers to justice and making sure that nothing like that ever happens again? >>> also, you may not be familiar with this country, but terrorists lin
all that's left now is for republican governor rick snyder to sign it. it will curb the power of unions, it gives workers the chance to decide for themselves whether or not to pay union dues. they decide that as opposed to mandatory dues which is the way that the state has been run and so many other states have been run up to now. this is a story that has been playing out, it has seen some very plowed -- loud and violent protests, but peaceful demonstrations going on right now around the...
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even though the governor, rick snyder, didn't talk about it, but mary kay henry wanted to make a final point. >> i just disagree with the idea that it's wait and see. we know that ohio, missouri, kansas are all considering right to work legislation in january, and i agree with the last speaker's point. this is a 30-year assault to dismantle worker organization because it allows the wealthy incorporations to set low wages and put profits above people in this country, and it destroys our democracy because workers have the resources to be able to fight not just for union rights, but for environmental protections, for voting rights. >> for women. >> for protecting planned parenthood, for immigration rights, and that's why there is going to be such a systematic attack. now that they couldn't suppress the vote, they're now going to try to take worker organizations off the playing field for 2014 and 2016. >> that's a different point than i was making. i think it's much less likely this time, legislation like this. >> scott walker said today or yesterday that he will not pursue right to work l
even though the governor, rick snyder, didn't talk about it, but mary kay henry wanted to make a final point. >> i just disagree with the idea that it's wait and see. we know that ohio, missouri, kansas are all considering right to work legislation in january, and i agree with the last speaker's point. this is a 30-year assault to dismantle worker organization because it allows the wealthy incorporations to set low wages and put profits above people in this country, and it destroys our...
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we'll have the latest on governor rick snyder's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. constitutional law professor jonathan turley has all the details. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the middle class tax cuts. the president is also taking time to be festive this holiday season. meantime, john boehner doesn't sound so merry. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer.
we'll have the latest on governor rick snyder's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. constitutional law professor jonathan turley has all the details. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the middle class tax cuts. the president is also taking time...
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governor rick snyder in a reversal says he will sign the bill into law as soon as it hits his desk. in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken unions. police stand shoulder to shoulder preparing for as many as 10,000 protesters at the michigan state capitol today. >> people have a constitutional right to demonstrate. however, all we ask is that they do it in an orderly, lawful, and civil manner. >> reporter: state legislators vote this morning on a right-to-work bill that would weaken unions. opponents acknowledge they're powerless to stop it. >> at the end of the day they'll be passed and signed by the governor. that doesn't make it right. >> reporter: the bill means michigan workers would no longer have to pay the union fees for negotiat
governor rick snyder in a reversal says he will sign the bill into law as soon as it hits his desk. in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken...
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it was not enough to stop the legislation that rick snyder signed into law. despite the long history, the state is controlled by a republican-dominated house and senate. >> there 58 aye votes and 52 nay votes. >> therefore the bill is passed. >> michigan becomes the nation's 24th right to work state which schneider said opponents will have to get used to. >> worker choice is important and this will lead to more and better jobs. the bill signed and they can finish up and they can go home. >> michigan has the fifth highest percentage of unionized workers at 17%, its history is well-known. it's a blue state that obama won by points last month. they lost these fights just about everywhere else. democrats in right to work states have moved on. democrats in the state legislature have threatened further action. >> good ideas get debate and bad ones get rammed through with police protection in a legislature. i will say this. this fight is not over. >> it's unclear exactly what democrats and labor can do. critics say it could overturn the law that would require gettin
it was not enough to stop the legislation that rick snyder signed into law. despite the long history, the state is controlled by a republican-dominated house and senate. >> there 58 aye votes and 52 nay votes. >> therefore the bill is passed. >> michigan becomes the nation's 24th right to work state which schneider said opponents will have to get used to. >> worker choice is important and this will lead to more and better jobs. the bill signed and they can finish up and...
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. >> eliot: when michigan's governor rick snyder ran for election in 2010, he adamantly denied right to work as part of his agenda. this afternoon he signed it into law. sandy levin called the governor out in an op-ed in the descroit free press writing what the governor is unleashing is a right to freeload which will reduce resources for effective representation, increase tensions among employees and sow ill will just when we need cooperation to grow the economy for the benefit of all. unless the governor stands up to the special interests that persuaded him to make a 180-degree turn on this issue so fundamental to the fabric of our state, he will engender a michigan divided. joining me now is ranking member of the house ways and means committee and representative of michigan's 12th district, congressman, welcome and thank you for that powerful op-ed today going right at the governor for the flip-flop. first, explain the flip-flop. what happened and why? >> well, he had said it wasn't on his agenda. and then he got pressure from the radical right and essentially he turned 180 degrees
. >> eliot: when michigan's governor rick snyder ran for election in 2010, he adamantly denied right to work as part of his agenda. this afternoon he signed it into law. sandy levin called the governor out in an op-ed in the descroit free press writing what the governor is unleashing is a right to freeload which will reduce resources for effective representation, increase tensions among employees and sow ill will just when we need cooperation to grow the economy for the benefit of all....
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this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protesters on thursday, all in opposition of this. actually shut down the capitol here due to overcapacity. eight people were arrested. they were charged for felonies for resisting arrest. that's just the scene police want to avoid when protesters show up tomorrow. again, this is expected to happen around 10:00 a.m., when the session will begin, be put to a vote, expected to get to the governor's desk as soon as tomorrow. dana? >> appreciate the update. dave, thank you so much. one sponsor of the legislation is michigan representative mike shirkey, insisting what is right to work is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at
this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protesters on thursday, all in opposition of this. actually shut down the capitol here due to overcapacity. eight people were arrested. they were charged for felonies for resisting arrest. that's just the scene police want to avoid when protesters show up tomorrow. again, this is expected to happen...
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this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't want it on my agenda now. it's here. >> demonstrators say working men and women are the subject of political retribution. >> retribution for standing up and fighting for working people. they want to us attack the different groups. they attack us. >> right to work legislation would outlaw the mandatory union due and membership as a condition of employment. even for those not joining the union. similar measure passed in indiana in 2012. unemployment decreased. the top seven states in the u.s. with the lowest unemployment are among the 23 current right to work states. >> when you look at the issu
this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't...
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. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the relationship between employers and unions at all. this is not about collective bargaining at all. this is not about other basics, about organizing at all. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to reco
. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the...
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. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the relationship between employers and unions at all. this is not about collective bargaining at all. this is not about other basics, about organizing at all. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to reco
. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the...
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and republican governor rick snyder quickly signed the bills, calling them "pro worker" and "pro michigan," but opponents say the move weakens organized labor and will mean lower wages. >>> last night on "politics nation," democratic congressman gary peters of michigan told the reverend al sharpton that governor snyder did an about face on this issue. take a listen. >> it is particularly hard to explain, because we had a governor who repeatedly said that this was not on his agenda, this would be very divisive for our state. he continually said that for a couple years, and then immediately after the election had a really sharp about-face and then just jammed it through without, as you mentioned, without any hearings or public input. i was able to meet with him with other members of the congressional delegation. he sat and listened to us, but he never really responded, and when he did respond, in fact, i was amazed by the lack of understanding that he has about this issue. >> don't miss "politics nation," weekdays at 6:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>> all right, less than three week
and republican governor rick snyder quickly signed the bills, calling them "pro worker" and "pro michigan," but opponents say the move weakens organized labor and will mean lower wages. >>> last night on "politics nation," democratic congressman gary peters of michigan told the reverend al sharpton that governor snyder did an about face on this issue. take a listen. >> it is particularly hard to explain, because we had a governor who repeatedly said...
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governor rick snyder pledged to sign the legislation. back to you. >> elaine quijano thank you. >>> the president was in michigan to rally support for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff and with just 21 days left until the deadline, a new gallup poll shows most americans want congress to compromise on spending and tax cuts. 70% say republicans and democratic leaders should make a deal now, up eight points since last week. major garrett is at the white house covering the fiscal talks. good morning. >> reporter: good morning and good morning to our viewers out west. one thing has been agreed upon in the fiscal cliff talks, not to discuss the details. many look at this bipartisan silence and see an encouraging sign but white house and congressional sources tell me that while the atmosphere around these talks is positive between the president and speaker john boehner, when it gets to the underlying details, progress is maddeningly slow. president obama telephoned senate majority leader harry reid monday while rob nabors huddled for a second
governor rick snyder pledged to sign the legislation. back to you. >> elaine quijano thank you. >>> the president was in michigan to rally support for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff and with just 21 days left until the deadline, a new gallup poll shows most americans want congress to compromise on spending and tax cuts. 70% say republicans and democratic leaders should make a deal now, up eight points since last week. major garrett is at the white house covering the fiscal...
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republican governor rick snyder signed the measure yesterday, despite widespread protests by the labor union at the state capitol in lansing. the law will make it illegal to require an employee to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. despite michigan's long history of controlled labor, the state is controlled by republican-dominated house and senate. yesterday the house rejected last-minute pleas to delay the bill's passage. even president obama, who won michigan by ten points last month, was unable to sway state lawmakers at the last minute during his visit to detroit. but governor snyder says it was the union who started this fight in the first place. >> i asked them not to go forward, and the reasons i said it is you're going to start a very divisive discussion regarding collective bargaining first, but it also will get into right to work. the right-to-work discussion continued to escalate and was becoming very divisive. the way i viewed it is it's on the table, it's a hot issue, let's show some leadership. so i said when i reviewed it, it's a good thing. it's about be
republican governor rick snyder signed the measure yesterday, despite widespread protests by the labor union at the state capitol in lansing. the law will make it illegal to require an employee to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. despite michigan's long history of controlled labor, the state is controlled by republican-dominated house and senate. yesterday the house rejected last-minute pleas to delay the bill's passage. even president obama, who won michigan by ten points...
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governor rick snyder, backed by the koch brothers is attempting to bust unions in the state where the modern labor movement began. on thursday, michigan republicans rammed through right-to-work legislation. it prohibits paying union dues as a condition of employment, but won't apply to existing union contracts. the bill is expected to pass next week. this is a complete political stealth attack by governor snyder. he never campaigned on a right to work law and the bill passed with little or no debate. that's what is infuriating people. republicans used a dirty trick to avoid a recall vote on the law. they included spending in the bill because laws with spending can't be overturn bade citizen vote such as a referral. so this sneak attack on labor has people in michigan absolutely outraged. took a lot of calls on it on the radio show. protesters stormed the capital on thursday. police used pepper spray on protesters and eight arrests were made. meanwhile, governor snyder claims his right-to-work law isn't bad for unions. >> i do not view this as something against the unions. i support th
governor rick snyder, backed by the koch brothers is attempting to bust unions in the state where the modern labor movement began. on thursday, michigan republicans rammed through right-to-work legislation. it prohibits paying union dues as a condition of employment, but won't apply to existing union contracts. the bill is expected to pass next week. this is a complete political stealth attack by governor snyder. he never campaigned on a right to work law and the bill passed with little or no...
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snyder supports, and both branches of republican legislature have already passed. that is to give workers the choice whether they want to be a union or not. union members say it is not that simple, that this is really a trojan horse for dismantling them. don, the adviser to the president of the united states had a big fundraiser for the president helping get him re-elected. don, you're an entrepreneur, a business guy, knows a i think thing a two about how businesses succeed and thrive and pass that along to the president. business guys say there's nothing wrong with this measure, that it is not a union killer, that it's a free choice provider for workers. what do you think of that? >> well, look, i happen to do business in a few different states. one of them is florida, which is a right to work state, and we do business in new york. there's pros and cons for a business person as to whether or %-construction business, whether or not you benefit from union labor or not. without question, it costs more to bill union versus not. the premise of having workers have the r
snyder supports, and both branches of republican legislature have already passed. that is to give workers the choice whether they want to be a union or not. union members say it is not that simple, that this is really a trojan horse for dismantling them. don, the adviser to the president of the united states had a big fundraiser for the president helping get him re-elected. don, you're an entrepreneur, a business guy, knows a i think thing a two about how businesses succeed and thrive and pass...
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every floridian who has the right to vote is able to win upcoming election the bat michigan governor rick snyder despite the system for months that he would not support a right to work for less law in his state senators doing just that today snyder called on the michigan legislature to introduce and as a right to work for less bill and so that he would sign it as soon as it reaches his desk and it was one of several republican governors who led an all out assault on workers' rights in two thousand and eleven as you can see neighbor indiana passed a right to work for less walker earlier this year and snyder says he wants to stay competitive with the state i guess he's willing to screw over thousands of michigan workers in the process and the very very ugly wall late last month one hundred workers died in a garment factory fire in bangladesh the plant which make clothing for wal-mart among other companies had no emergency exits or any type of evacuation plan and now it turns out that meeting last year wal-mart brass refused to pay suppliers more money to make safety improvements at their ma
every floridian who has the right to vote is able to win upcoming election the bat michigan governor rick snyder despite the system for months that he would not support a right to work for less law in his state senators doing just that today snyder called on the michigan legislature to introduce and as a right to work for less bill and so that he would sign it as soon as it reaches his desk and it was one of several republican governors who led an all out assault on workers' rights in two...
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we're following some major developments in michigan after governor rick snyder signed two bills into law making michigan the nation's 24th right it work state. now despite violent pro-union protests all day, governor snyder last night said these new laws will create more jobs. >> i don't view this as anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. this is an opportunity for unions to step up to say how they can provide the best value to workers in our state and be really responsive and listen to them and hopefully get successful getting workers on board. jenna: many strong opinions about this. mike tobin in lansing, michigan with the latest. mike? >> reporter: a lot of sound, fury and big numbers are gone from the demonstrationsgan. if you look behind me the afl-cio with a silent protests. you see tape across their mouth. $1500 less that's what they believe on average workers will make here in michigan now that it has become a right-to-work state. this is sharp contrast what we saw yesterday, hundreds and hundreds of angry demonstrators on the capitol ground and capitol building its
we're following some major developments in michigan after governor rick snyder signed two bills into law making michigan the nation's 24th right it work state. now despite violent pro-union protests all day, governor snyder last night said these new laws will create more jobs. >> i don't view this as anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. this is an opportunity for unions to step up to say how they can provide the best value to workers in our state and be really responsive and...
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at republican governor rick snyder. late today he signed the bill. for more, we're joined by micheline maynard, a contributor to forbes.com and former detroit bureau chief for the "new york times," and by bill ballenger, editor of "inside michigan politics." welcome to you both. mickey maynard. first, this has all happened very quickly. what precipitated this right now. >> there were two things that happened, judy. first of all in november there was a ballot proposal that unions floated that would have outlawed right-to-work. it would have put that into the state constitution. that proposal failed because it was proposed at the same time as a lot of constitutional amendments. people just sort of cast one vote against all of them. the second thing that happened was republicans gave up some seats in the house and senate. it will still be a republican majority in january but it will be smaller. if right-to-work was going to happen this lame duck republican-controlled legislature was where it was going to happen. >> woodruff: bill, in a state that voted
at republican governor rick snyder. late today he signed the bill. for more, we're joined by micheline maynard, a contributor to forbes.com and former detroit bureau chief for the "new york times," and by bill ballenger, editor of "inside michigan politics." welcome to you both. mickey maynard. first, this has all happened very quickly. what precipitated this right now. >> there were two things that happened, judy. first of all in november there was a ballot proposal...
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republican governor rick snyder says the right to work measure is not about hurting unions but getting workers the freedom to choose. hert, back to you. >> kelly back to you. >> right away let's go to this. extreme weather alert a winter storm creating quite the mess in the midwest. >> this picture comes in from my in-laws low which is and kent. winter wonderland there they live in a suburb of minneapolis. that is theme now. maria molina talking to us about the winter storm. >> good morning. we saw snow across parts of minnesota and parts of the dakotas and rockies picking up over a foot of snow 10 inches recorded in and around city of minneapolis. it was more of heavy rain into parts of the carolinas southeast georgia and parts of the state of florida. expect slow downs during the morning hours. significant temperature drop. take a look at the temperatures. 12 degrees right now in minneapolis and in the teens as well in the city of denver. not going to be warming up a whole lot. 14 will be the high in minneapolis. 13 degrees high. temperatures about 10, 15 degrees above average. 7 in
republican governor rick snyder says the right to work measure is not about hurting unions but getting workers the freedom to choose. hert, back to you. >> kelly back to you. >> right away let's go to this. extreme weather alert a winter storm creating quite the mess in the midwest. >> this picture comes in from my in-laws low which is and kent. winter wonderland there they live in a suburb of minneapolis. that is theme now. maria molina talking to us about the winter storm....
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michigan governor rick snyder has pledged to sign the measure into law. >> in world news. south africa's former president, nelson mandela is suffering from a recurring lung infection and is responding to medical treatments. that's according to the nation's presidency. the 94- year-old has been hospitalized since saturday for medical tests at a hospital near the nation's capital. government officials originally declined to say what caused the hospital stay. no word yet on when he is expected to be released. >> meanwhile, a stomach virus has forced u-s secretary of state hilliary clinton to cancel a trip to the middle east clinton was supposed to fly to morocco for a wednesday meeting with the "friends of syria." it's a group that focuses on ways to support syria's opposition against the regime of syrian president bashar al-assad. deputy secretary of state william burns will go in clinton's place to the meeting. >> we have a live look over the golden gate bridge your ride is really nice. no problems out marin county heading south bound on 101. erica will be here with a forec
michigan governor rick snyder has pledged to sign the measure into law. >> in world news. south africa's former president, nelson mandela is suffering from a recurring lung infection and is responding to medical treatments. that's according to the nation's presidency. the 94- year-old has been hospitalized since saturday for medical tests at a hospital near the nation's capital. government officials originally declined to say what caused the hospital stay. no word yet on when he is...
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the republican governor rick snyder says he'll sign the measure. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages to work. we'll be right back. . >>> we're back. >>> we're back. of all of the memorable lines this year, and there were many, which ones proved to be the most notable? well, for the seventh year, fred shapiro has released his infamous list for the top ten quotes. they are certainly some of the most memorable lines spoken this year. which ones will stand the test of time? you be the judge. come sit through a few of them. we've got eugine roberts. washington bureau chief for mother jones, both are nbc political analysts. here we go. let's look at this one. let's start with a memorable moment from the spring while we were still in the middle of a tough primary fight that pushed romney to the far right. the question many were asking was could he pivot back to the center in the general election. and then this happened. the number seven quote of the year, let's watch. >> he hit
the republican governor rick snyder says he'll sign the measure. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages to work. we'll be right back. . >>> we're back. >>> we're back. of all of the memorable lines this year, and there were many, which ones proved to be the most notable? well, for the seventh year, fred shapiro has released his infamous list for the top ten...